When they connected for today’s conversation at Vogue’s Forces of Fashion summit, Lizzo and Jeremy Scott were many miles apart—the former in Mexico, where she’s currently working on her new album, and the latter at home in Los Angeles. Yet within seconds, the two friends and collaborators instantly hit upon their usual quick-fire rapport, with Lizzo kicking off proceedings in her typically upbeat style by asking: “Are we talking about the fashion, the clothing, the oohs, the aahs?” 

Not before catching up on politics, of course. While conversation quickly turned to the recent election results, with both describing the palpable sense of relief they felt after hearing of Joe Biden’s victory last week, the pair then dived into another subject close to their hearts: the various ways they have strived to change more outdated attitudes within the fashion industry from the inside.